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	<title>Comments on: Ivermectin and other Lethal Meds for ES</title>
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	<description>--dedicated to the dogs that have blessed my life with their wisdom - by Lynda McCall</description>
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		<title>By: Karen Cline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, here is Wildfire&#039;s page:  http://www.concharty.com/Wildfire.html  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She was not only beautiful, she was as perfect a dog as I&#039;ve ever known.   She is missed terribly by Renee, Andy and the kids as well as the rest of the family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, here is Wildfire&#8217;s page:  <a href="http://www.concharty.com/Wildfire.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.concharty.com/Wildfire.html</a>  </p>
<p>She was not only beautiful, she was as perfect a dog as I&#8217;ve ever known.   She is missed terribly by Renee, Andy and the kids as well as the rest of the family.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Cline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The experience Lynda mentioned was the death of my sister&#039;s dog, Wildfire.  Wildfire died in May 2006 a week after a diagnosis of Parvo.  Wildfire was eleven months old at the time.  She is a neice of Lynda&#039;s Ringo, having been born to Libby (littermate to Ringo) by Rott&#039;s Boo.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We are not yet sure if Wildfire&#039;s death might be related to the MDR1 gene defect (which causes the sensitivity to Ivermectin and other drugs), but I am very suspicious at this point.  I&#039;ve asked my sister to write something about what happened to her.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Wildfire has Butcher&#039;s Augie on top and bottom of her pedigree... Augie&#039;s grand-daugher Susie Q (Wildfire&#039;s grand-dam) is mutant/normal - as are many other dogs of that lineage.  Given that result along with Augtu&#039;s death two days after being treated with Ivermectin leads us to the possibility that Wildfire had the MDR1 gene defect... and since she had Augie on top and bottom, there is a chance that she may have been mutant/mutant.  There is, however, only one dog in the breed known to me at this time that is mutant/mutant.  Wildfire&#039;s pedigree is here:  http://www.concharty.com/page7.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What I *can* say for sure is that Wildfire&#039;s diagnosis of parvo and her later symptoms did not match.  The early symptoms were like parvo - but as things progressed, her symptoms went way far astray of the usual parvo symptoms.   A consultation with a canine infectious disease specialist at Oklahoma State University confirmed that the symptoms and the diagnosis do not make sense by themselves.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I first read the account of Buster&#039;s death at www.busteralert.org, I recognized that it sounded very similar to what was described to me as Wildfire declined during the last week of her life.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Renee has now found the list of drugs given to Wildfire and she&#039;s going to review it with the list of drugs known to cause reactions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve sent off the DNA from my English Shepherds to be tested for the MDR1 gene defect, but have not yet received the results.  The University of California Davis is currently doing a study where they will test English Shepherds free of charge.   I have Wildfire&#039;s sister and my son has her brother, so we have two full siblings being tested in additon to Libby and Sir (my unrelated stud).  I am going to encourage the owner of Wildfire&#039;s sire to have him checked as well.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;More information on the testing being done by UC Davis is here:  http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/research/canine/projects/mdr1/&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jan Hilborn, another ES breeder, has put up a web page for dogs that have been tested along with their results.  She only posts dogs if given permission by the owner... so there may be many more dogs that have been tested.  Jan&#039;s MDR1 web site is http://www.caledoniamission.org/pedigrees/mdr1.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;More to follow as we get more information....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The experience Lynda mentioned was the death of my sister&#8217;s dog, Wildfire.  Wildfire died in May 2006 a week after a diagnosis of Parvo.  Wildfire was eleven months old at the time.  She is a neice of Lynda&#8217;s Ringo, having been born to Libby (littermate to Ringo) by Rott&#8217;s Boo.  </p>
<p>We are not yet sure if Wildfire&#8217;s death might be related to the MDR1 gene defect (which causes the sensitivity to Ivermectin and other drugs), but I am very suspicious at this point.  I&#8217;ve asked my sister to write something about what happened to her.  </p>
<p>Wildfire has Butcher&#8217;s Augie on top and bottom of her pedigree&#8230; Augie&#8217;s grand-daugher Susie Q (Wildfire&#8217;s grand-dam) is mutant/normal &#8211; as are many other dogs of that lineage.  Given that result along with Augtu&#8217;s death two days after being treated with Ivermectin leads us to the possibility that Wildfire had the MDR1 gene defect&#8230; and since she had Augie on top and bottom, there is a chance that she may have been mutant/mutant.  There is, however, only one dog in the breed known to me at this time that is mutant/mutant.  Wildfire&#8217;s pedigree is here:  <a href="http://www.concharty.com/page7.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.concharty.com/page7.html</a></p>
<p>What I *can* say for sure is that Wildfire&#8217;s diagnosis of parvo and her later symptoms did not match.  The early symptoms were like parvo &#8211; but as things progressed, her symptoms went way far astray of the usual parvo symptoms.   A consultation with a canine infectious disease specialist at Oklahoma State University confirmed that the symptoms and the diagnosis do not make sense by themselves.</p>
<p>When I first read the account of Buster&#8217;s death at <a href="http://www.busteralert.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.busteralert.org</a>, I recognized that it sounded very similar to what was described to me as Wildfire declined during the last week of her life.</p>
<p>Renee has now found the list of drugs given to Wildfire and she&#8217;s going to review it with the list of drugs known to cause reactions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sent off the DNA from my English Shepherds to be tested for the MDR1 gene defect, but have not yet received the results.  The University of California Davis is currently doing a study where they will test English Shepherds free of charge.   I have Wildfire&#8217;s sister and my son has her brother, so we have two full siblings being tested in additon to Libby and Sir (my unrelated stud).  I am going to encourage the owner of Wildfire&#8217;s sire to have him checked as well.</p>
<p>More information on the testing being done by UC Davis is here:  <a href="http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/research/canine/projects/mdr1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/research/canine/projects/mdr1/</a></p>
<p>Jan Hilborn, another ES breeder, has put up a web page for dogs that have been tested along with their results.  She only posts dogs if given permission by the owner&#8230; so there may be many more dogs that have been tested.  Jan&#8217;s MDR1 web site is <a href="http://www.caledoniamission.org/pedigrees/mdr1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.caledoniamission.org/pedigrees/mdr1.html</a></p>
<p>More to follow as we get more information&#8230;.</p>
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